Originally Answered: In Fallout, how do you beat Ulysses? Berfore you interact with him you can use stealth and sneak up into easy sniper range. If one decides to spare his life, they will have to pass a hard Speech check of 90 if you have a high reputation with the NCR or Legion or the Strip , which makes Ulysses join the Courier against the incoming marked men. An oft-quoted poem, it is a popular example of the dramatic monologue.
Facing old age, mythical hero Ulysses describes his discontent and restlessness upon returning to his kingdom, Ithaca, after his far-ranging travels. Despite his reunion with his wife Penelope and his son Telemachus, Ulysses yearns to explore again. A more specific answer would be that, for Ulysses, Penelope is a personification of everything that he hates about infirmity and domestic exile. All eyebot upgrade circuit boards are located inside destroyed eyebots. The explosion has caved in the entrance once entered.
Word games. What happens if you nuke the Legion and NCR? Why did the courier destroy the divide? Should I spare Ulysses? How do you not kill Ulysses? How do you kill Ulysses? They're both motivated by simple revenge, yet realize there's a bigger picture than mere vendettas. Each man can change the world for better or worse. It's not that the writing is bad, its just more thematic in structure and dealing with symbolism. All of the DLCs deal with the past in one form or another: Greed, regret, personal obligations, and hope.
Ulysses doesn't believe in The Legion, he keeps hold of the sense of meaning that was his tribe, and in The Divide he had found something much like it.
And then it's all taken away from him. He's not so much mad at The Courier, but the world. And it ties into his adoration of the old US of A, of a time when people believed in a larger world and ideas. He marks things with images of the American Flag and carries around an old flag pole. The guy wants to be a part of something bigger and greater than himself. He's the darker side of The Courier. He's really a sad person, lost, and trying to make sense of a senseless world. He does talk in fortune cookie ways, but that's an issue of style rather than meaning.
Chud , Jan 29, I'd say the writing is pretty bad on a lot of levels, which is why there's even a debate. You can do characters with off-kilter or odd beliefs and do it well without them seeming too pretentious about it.
If Ulysses is just very angry and it poisons his judgment, you can portray that too. NV does this constantly with its characters. Personally I find Caesar's use of Hegelian Dialectic to be a rather silly personal belief. He seems to believe, in practice, if not explicitly, that there's some historical inevitability to what he's doing that justifies his actions. It's a little pompous, but believable given the character. He's clearly very intelligent, but intelligence doesn't equal infallibility.
And actually Ulysses echoes a lot of Caesar when I think about it. Because Ulysses wants to wipe the slate clean with nukes. It's his own take on a kind of a conflict-based dialectic. There is no acceptable middle ground or compromise that can be built from what already exists.
And Ulysses really does seem like he should be the warrior-poet archetype who would be brooding on whatever ideas he picked up from Caesar. Yeah dude does a lot of brooding. Mind you, they don't have to come across as grounded in the reality of mere mortals. They're both bombastic and grandiose personalities. Fallout 2 pulled this shit off Hakunin. You could mock Hakunin for being a kooky old man who is hallucinating too much, but you did get the impression that he operated on some kind of internal logic that was knowable only to himself.
Ulysses does a lot of that crap. He speaks in a lot of tribalspeak, similar to Follows-Chalk, just with a lot more mystical flavoring. Like he blames the courier for delivering the doom-thing to the Divide Or the people who activated it when it was delivered? Does he think about how some OTHER courier would have been hired to take the doom-thing to the divide if Courier 6 didn't? That's exactly what happened when Ulysses refused to deliver the platinum chip.
Another Courier delivered it instead. Or why does Ulysses define "home" so loosely that home is little else other than a synonym for "destination"? And he's always talking about how he apparently followed you to all of these places and watched you do all of these things So which is it?
Did he stalk us and see us do all of these things, or didn't he? Last edited by Mathmancer ; 4 Nov, am. Showing 1 - 15 of 20 comments.
Delta View Profile View Posts. Yeah, Ulysses is a His presentation The "in your face thing makes a bit more sense when you realise that he is Avellone's avatar. Of course I'm very biased against Ulysses and my head is ringing right now. Last edited by Delta ; 4 Nov, am. Originally posted by Delta :. I had to google who Avellone was. I had a vague inkling that Ulysses was asking some meta questions, but now that I know he's suppose to be the game designers voice it DOES make a bit more sense.
While it makes more sense it doesn't make it better. I think it just shows how poorly written the lines for Ulysses are. If he was well written, I feel it would be clear what all of the meta-game themes and ideas were, and that the questions were being directed at the PLAYER and not the Courier.
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