How can legolas be in the hobbit




















At the Battle of Helm's Deep, after the Galadhrim arrived to assist Rohan, they sacrificed themselves against Sauron's orc hordes. Many untrained members of the Race of Man survived, but just as many woodland elves were lost including Haldir but Legolas survived to fight another day.

In Peter Jackson's Hobbit trilogy, Legolas is shown taking on countless spiders in Mirkwood, presumably to prepare fans to believe his final confrontation with Bolg, which makes Legolas much more physically powerful than he was shown to be in the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Assuming Legolas had enhanced physical abilities because of his age roughly 3, years old , and his status as a Sindarin prince , why then was he not chosen to attack the Balrog? Elf-lords from the First Age took them on all the time Fingon, Feanor, etc , even if they did die in the process.

He opposed his father's ideals, especially those that obstructed his freedom to pursue Tauriel, an elf far below his status as Prince in An Unexpected Journey. After Thranduil banished Tauriel in the Desolation of Smaug, Legolas was so wounded that he told his father in The Battle of the Fives Armies that he wouldn't return home. This makes little sense, especially since it's Thranduil who sent Legolas to represent Mirkwood at the Council of Elrond. When Orlando Bloom filmed the Lord of the Rings trilogy he was in his early 20's, whereas when he returned to reprise the role for The Hobbit trilogy, he was already Unfortunately, even the most effective de-aging techniques in CGI couldn't account for the physical stiffness Bloom would exhibit in The Hobbit films.

The combination of using both the actor and a CGI stand-in for certain scenes such as his fight with Bolg made the contrast starker, especially when compared to his more agile self in the Lord of the Rings films. Whether they loved him for his skills, personality, or good looks, he's a well-known feature of Middle-earth. His addition to J.

Tolkein's majestic, sprawling fantasy world only makes it all the better. Since the movie release of The Hobbit , Legolas has only become more popular. To make the book into three films, the writers added Legolas into the story to better bind the two movie trilogies together.

His presence in the lore has now shifted, and has become a little more prominent than it was before. As far as the movies go, he's become all the more important and has been through a lot more change and personal growth than his book counterpart.

However, what has changed? What was Legolas up to during that time? The answers are more interesting than you might think. Though the timelines don't quite match up with Thranduil's post- Hobbit advice for Legolas to find "Strider," it is implied that Legolas and Aragorn met between the two movies. If not from Legolas' travels, then they two met when Aragorn brought Gollum to Mirkwood, per Gandalf's request. It was a trusted place to keep the dangerous creature captive.

These two meeting would also give more context about why Legolas knows Aragorn is the true high king. Regardless, meeting Aragorn, an elf-raised human, would be a unique experience for the otherwise sheltered person. Perhaps their meeting made him a more level-headed and open-minded person. However, if they did meet, it was likely brief. When everyone met in Rivendell, they didn't act like close friends and still had a long way to go in their relationship.

Elves often have a poor outlook on dwarves, thinking of them as thieves and simple folk. Legolas felt no differently. He only helped the dwarves out because it was what Tauriel wanted.

However, through meeting them, he did get to see that there was much more to them that being gold-obsessed mountain dwellers. It made him realize they were capable and loyal warriors, too.

That didn't erase his ill feelings towards them, though. He still felt betrayed and heartbroken over Tauriel choosing a lowly dwarf over him and the damage their quest for old wealth and history caused. While they showed good qualities, they also fully showed off their dangerous greed. In between the two movies, Legolas has time to contemplate these observations and emotions.

He still feels negatively about dwarves, but in a much more nuanced way. Historically, despite times of war, Elves didn't stray far from their homelands, and even then, they often only traveled to other elven kingdoms. After losing Tauriel and falling out with his father, Legolas decided he needed to leave Mirkwood for a time. His fairly sheltered life would now be exposed to the various peoples and races of Middle-earth. It's unknown where he traveled between The Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings , but he likely traveled through the Misty Moutains, some of Rohan or Gondor, and many other familiar places.

However, he might have stuck to small towns and backroads, considering he had never been to Minas Tirith, Gondor's capital city.

Fans may never know where Legolas went during those 60 years. In The Hobbit , Legolas sports a fair amount of ornate outfits. He has some with impressive, leaved shoulder adornments and a lot of layers covering him.

While they separate him from the other bowmen in Tauriel's guard, and ensure that people know of his high-born status, these outfits are clunky. It wouldn't be surprising if they sometimes got in the way of battle.

His clothing choices have simplified a lot by The Lord of The Rings. Though he appreciates his high-born status more, he wears simple tunics and thin armor that fit his fighting style. They're light and airy for flexibility and agility, but still have a little protective padding.

Legolas has become a stronger, smarter warrior in the years between, and it shows. Legolas is implied to have spent quite a few years traveling after The Battle of Five Armies, but it's clear he didn't want to go too far away from home. It only takes a minute to sign up. Connect and share knowledge within a single location that is structured and easy to search.

Legolas also appeared in the films of The Hobbit. Does he appear in the book The Hobbit? No, Legolas does not appear in the original text of the Hobbit, even though Thorin's company does go through Mirkwood and meet the Wood-Elves and their king. In fact, the King isn't even named in the book, not to mention any sons he might have, and the description of the Wood-Elves is a far cry from that of the Elves in the Lord of the Rings - wild and dangerous and fond of wine.

Their king isn't even given a name - he's just the Elf King. It's clear that he didn't really have the whole backstory of the Elves in mind when he wrote them - The Hobbit wasn't even originally planned to be part of the Legendarium of the Lord of the Rings and the Silmarillion, it just merged into it later. He does not explicitly appear, as the other answers here note, but in not mentioning his name it is also not made explicit that Legolas is not in Mirkwood when Bilbo and the Dwarves make their way through.

In fact, as Peter Jackson noted by putting him into The Desolation of Smaug , his apparent age and forest of origin make it clear that he certainly could have been one of the elves the Hobbits ran into during their adventures or misadventures in the forest.

As Jimmy Shelter has pointed out, there is no familiar interaction between Gloin and Legolas at the Council of Elrond, but this could easily be chalked up to the old Dwarven-Elven feud although, of course, the real-world reason is that Legolas had not been invented when The Hobbit was written. So clearly, it is possible and maybe even likely that the Dwarven Company met Legolas, though the book never mentions this meeting. No, he was added for the movie.

They may have seen or even met him, but he was never mentioned in the books, let alone by name. If you search The Hobbit for Legolas which is easily done on Google Books , you will not find that word.

Legolas is never specifically mentioned in the book. However, he may very likely have been present in Mirkwood at the time that Thorin's company was imprisoned there. Many of the answers here say that there was no familiar interaction between Gloin and Legolas at the Council of Elrond, but, respectfully disagreeing, there actually is in fact an instance of familiar interaction between Gloin and Legolas at the Council of Elrond.

Legolas explains to the council that Gollum has escaped from the elves in Mirkwood where he was being held because they were perhaps too kind to him by allowing him special privelages specifically allowing him to go outside to climb a tree while under watch of an elvish guard. Whether or not "You" referred to Legolas specifically or to the Mirkwood Elves in general is unclear, but given the context in which Gloin replies, I believe that Gloin does in fact remember Legolas personally from his imprisonment with Thorin's company in Mirkwood.

No, Legolas does not make an appearance in the novel, though Thorin and company are captured by Wood-Elves. None of the elves are named explicitly in the novel; even the king is simply referred to as "The King" or like variations.

Much of the movies deviate from the original story line. For example, in An Unexpected Journey , the rock giants were added in simply for more action. They never appear in the book. Nor do the orcs; there are goblins, briefly, but they don't chase the dwarves and hobbit like in the movie. This subject causes alot of confusion between the bookies and the filmies. Feeds Collaborative feeds User feeds Search feeds. What's new New posts New profile posts Latest activity. Members Current visitors New profile posts Search profile posts.

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You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Daniel Thomas The Istari of Middle earth. I personally love the book more than the movies of the hobbit. So it makes me super mad when they change the plot of the books and put Legolas in it.

Don't get me wrong I love Legolas but it just wasn't the same with him in there. Does anybody no why they did that? The Hobbit films' problems go way beyond adding Legolas to the narrative. Hell, you could easily have him in there without changing the plot an ounce. The fact is, Legolas was probably present for many of the events in the Hobbit, simply because his father, Thranduil the Elvenking in the Hobbit was a fairly major secondary character. He was likely present during the Dwarves captivity as well as the Battle of Five Armies.

I had zero problems with them including Legolas in the Hobbit films, it is the manner he is incorporated into it that is an issue. Click to expand Last edited by a moderator: Feb 7, Daniel Thomas said:. I see what your saying but the fact is he was not mentioned in the book that is the only reason why I have a problem with him.



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